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		<title>Training AIs to Solve CAPTCHAs</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2026/10/19/training-ais-to-solve-captchas/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 11:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.02393">research</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Abstract</b>: Vision-language models (VLMs) can solve visual CAPTCHAs without task-specific training, but the agents built on them approach every challenge from scratch. For such an agent, the hundredth instance of a familiar puzzle costs as much time and compute as the first. Specialized detectors invert the trade-off, answering in milliseconds but only for categories they were trained on. Neither improves with exposure. We study what changes when a solver improves with use. Our system pairs a fine-tuned YOLOv8 detector with an open-weight VLM behind a confidence-based router, and runs entirely from screenshots and operating-system input events, with no browser automation or DOM access. It reaches 85.4% overall and 84.2% macro accuracy across 16 classes, exceeding either component alone. Every answer VLM produces also serves as a training label, so the detector absorbs categories it was never trained for, typically after one or two encounters and without human annotation. The same loop also repairs it. A CAPTCHA operator can perturb images against the publicly released detector and drive its accuracy to 0%, but the perturbations leave VLM untouched, and its labels let the detector recover. Under a year-long simulated arms race in which the CAPTCHA operator re-crafts its perturbations each month, the solver recovers every round, and a cheap ~70%-accurate open-weight teacher hardens it as effectively as a perfect oracle. Visual CAPTCHA defenses that assume a failing bot stays failing therefore understate how quickly an adaptive solver returns...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
		
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		<title>Are AIs Still Struggling with CAPTCHAs?</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2026/09/18/are-ais-still-struggling-with-captchas/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 11:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Anthropic’s recent security-incident <a href="https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/e50be2e51e7695dc4b1366a37a245a597377d3b5/Anthropic-Detecting-and-countering-091026.pdf">document</a> contains a bit about how CAPTCHAs are still <a href="https://gizmodo.com/ai-models-can-crack-everything-but-captchas-2000810126">frustrating</a> Claude.</p>
<blockquote><p>In the transcript, the Claude model that is so powerful that Anthropic is gatekeeping access to it appeared to slam its virtual head against the wall solving a simple image identification test. In a test where the agent was asked to identify a shape that didn’t match the others displayed, it couldn’t even decide which image to select. Instead, it repeatedly went over the same images and questioned its own conclusions.</p>
<p>“Actually hmm, wait,” it said in its chain-of-thought transcript, later adding “Ugh,” because we’ve decided that we need to inject human mannerisms into these machines for some reason. The whole thing took so long that the agent eventually realized that the challenge had expired and it would have to start the process again...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
		
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		<title>Fake CAPTCHA Scams</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2026/09/16/fake-captcha-scams/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 11:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[scams]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[New variant of an old scam: Use the framing of a CAPTCHA to get an unsuspecting user to download and run a malicious program.
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		<title>Clever Social Engineering Attack Using Captchas</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/09/20/clever-social-engineering-attack-using-captchas/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Malware]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is really interesting.
It&#8217;s a phishing attack targeting GitHub users, tricking them to solve a fake Captcha that actually runs a script that is copied to the command line.
Clever.
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		<title>Bots Are Better than Humans at Solving CAPTCHAs</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2023/08/18/bots-are-better-than-humans-at-solving-captchas/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Interesting research: “<a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.12108.pdf">An Empirical Study &#38; Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs</a>“:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Abstract:</b> For nearly two decades, CAPTCHAS have been widely used as a means of protection against bots. Throughout the years, as their use grew, techniques to defeat or bypass CAPTCHAS have continued to improve. Meanwhile, CAPTCHAS have also evolved in terms of sophistication and diversity, becoming increasingly difficult to solve for both bots (machines) and humans. Given this long-standing and still-ongoing arms race, it is critical to investigate how long it takes legitimate users to solve modern CAPTCHAS, and how they are perceived by those users...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>As Long as We’re on the Subject of CAPTCHAs</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2022/12/16/as-long-as-were-on-the-subject-of-captchas/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2022 20:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>CAPTCHA</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2022/12/05/captcha-2/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2022 12:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[authentication]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>This is an actual CAPTCHA I was shown when trying to log into PayPal.</p>
<p><img loading="lazy" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-66304" src="https://149400697.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/bc5c9f8f-6e44-4dfc-b1a9-0bc888c1218f-204x300.jpg" alt="" width="592" height="872"></p>
<p>As an actual human and not a bot, I had no idea how to answer. Is this a joke? (Seems not.) Is it a Magritte-like existential question? (It’s not a bicycle. It’s a drawing of a bicycle. Actually, it’s a photograph of a drawing of a bicycle. No, it’s really a computer image of a photograph of a drawing of a bicycle.) Am I overthinking this? (Definitely.) I stared at the screen, paralyzed, for way too long.</p>
<p>It’s probably the best CAPTCHA I have ever encountered; a computer would have just answered...</p>]]></description>
		
		
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