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		<title>Flok License Plate Surveillance</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/10/08/flok-license-plate-surveillance/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 16:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The company Flok is <a href="https://www.jalopnik.com/1982690/police-flock-cameras-sued-for-tracking-man-526-times/">surveilling us</a> as we drive:</p>
<blockquote><p>A retired veteran named Lee Schmidt wanted to know how often Norfolk, Virginia’s 176 Flock Safety automated license-plate-reader cameras were tracking him. The answer, according to a <a href="https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26101033-norfolk_flock/">U.S. District Court</a> lawsuit filed in September, was more than four times a day, or 526 times from mid-February to early July. No, there’s no warrant out for Schmidt’s arrest, nor is there a warrant for Schmidt’s co-plaintiff, Crystal Arrington, whom the system tagged 849 times in roughly the same period.</p>
<p>You might think this sounds like it violates the Fourth Amendment, which protects American citizens from unreasonable searches and seizures without probable cause. Well, so does the American Civil Liberties Union. Norfolk, Virginia Judge Jamilah LeCruise also agrees, and in 2024 she ruled that plate-reader data obtained without a search warrant couldn’t be used against a defendant in a robbery case...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Automatic License Plate Readers Are Coming to Schools</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/08/11/automatic-license-plate-readers-are-coming-to-schools/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2025 11:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fears around children is opening up a new market for automatic license place readers.
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		<title>Self-Driving Car Video Footage</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/06/19/self-driving-car-video-footage/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2025 11:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two articles crossed my path recently. First, a discussion of all the video Waymo has from outside its cars: in this case related to the LA protests. Second, a discussion of all the video Tesla has from inside its cars.
Lots of things are collecting lo...]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Hacking Digital License Plates</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/12/17/hacking-digital-license-plates/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2024 17:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Not everything needs to be digital and “smart.” License plates, <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/digital-license-plate-jailbreak-hack/">for example</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Josep Rodriguez, a researcher at security firm IOActive, has revealed a technique to “jailbreak” digital license plates sold by Reviver, the leading vendor of those plates in the US with 65,000 plates already sold. By removing a sticker on the back of the plate and attaching a cable to its internal connectors, he’s able to rewrite a Reviver plate’s firmware in a matter of minutes. Then, with that custom firmware installed, the jailbroken license plate can receive commands via Bluetooth from a smartphone app to instantly change its display to show any characters or image...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Friday Squid Blogging: Safe Quick Undercarriage Immobilization Device</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/12/07/friday-squid-blogging-safe-quick-undercarriage-immobilization-device/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 22:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Fifteen years ago I <a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/friday_squid_bl_166.html">blogged</a> about a different SQUID. Here’s an <a href="https://www.dhs.gov/archive/squid-long-and-sticky-arms-law">update</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Fleeing drivers are a common problem for law enforcement. They just won’t stop unless persuaded­—persuaded by bullets, barriers, spikes, or snares. Each option is risky business. Shooting up a fugitive’s car is one possibility. But what if children or hostages are in it? Lay down barriers, and the driver might swerve into a school bus. Spike his tires, and he might fishtail into a van­—if the spikes stop him at all. Existing traps, made from elastic, may halt a Hyundai, but they’re no match for a Hummer. In addition, officers put themselves at risk of being run down while setting up the traps...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Mapping License Plate Scanners in the US</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2024 12:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DeFlock is a crowd-sourced project to map license plate scanners.
It only records the fixed scanners, of course. The mobile scanners on cars are not mapped.
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		<title>Are Automatic License Plate Scanners Constitutional?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2024 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>An advocacy groups is <a href="https://www.404media.co/lawsuit-argues-warrantless-use-of-flock-surveillance-cameras-is-unconstitutional/">filing</a> a Fourth Amendment challenge against automatic license plate readers.</p>
<blockquote><p>“The City of Norfolk, Virginia, has installed a network of cameras that make it functionally impossible for people to drive anywhere without having their movements tracked, photographed, and stored in an AI-assisted database that enables the warrantless surveillance of their every move. This civil rights lawsuit seeks to end this dragnet surveillance program,” the <a href="https://ij.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/2024.10.21-1-Complaint.pdf">lawsuit notes</a>. “In Norfolk, no one can escape the government’s 172 unblinking eyes,” it continues, referring to the 172 Flock cameras currently operational in Norfolk. The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures and has been ruled in many cases to protect against warrantless government surveillance, and the lawsuit specifically says Norfolk’s installation violates that.”...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Take a Selfie Using a NY Surveillance Camera</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/08/23/take-a-selfie-using-a-ny-surveillance-camera/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This site will let you take a selfie with a New York City traffic surveillance camera.
EDITED TO ADD: BoingBoing post.
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		<title>Texas Sues GM for Collecting Driving Data without Consent</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/08/14/texas-sues-gm-for-collecting-driving-data-without-consent/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Texas is suing General Motors for collecting driver data without consent and then selling it to insurance companies:</p>
<p>From <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/13/business/texas-sues-general-motors-driver-data/index.html">CNN</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In car models from 2015 and later, the Detroit-based car manufacturer allegedly used technology to “collect, record, analyze, and transmit highly detailed driving data about each time a driver used their vehicle,” according to the AG’s statement.</p>
<p>General Motors sold this information to several other companies, including to at least two companies for the purpose of generating “Driving Scores” about GM’s customers, the AG alleged. The suit said those two companies then sold these scores to insurance companies...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>New Patent Application for Car-to-Car Surveillance</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/08/05/new-patent-application-for-car-to-car-surveillance/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2024 11:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ford has a new patent application for a system where cars monitor each other&#8217;s speeds, and then report then to some central authority.
Slashdot thread.
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		<title>Providing Security Updates to Automobile Software</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/07/30/providing-security-updates-to-automobile-software/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2024 11:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Auto manufacturers are <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/cars-are-now-rolling-computers-so-how-long-will-they-get-updates-automakers-cant-say/">just starting to realize</a> the problems of supporting the software in older models:</p>
<blockquote><p>Today’s phones are able to receive updates six to eight years after their purchase date. Samsung and Google provide Android OS updates and security updates for seven years. Apple <a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/102772">halts servicing</a> products seven years after they stop selling them.</p>
<p>That might not cut it in the auto world, where the average age of cars on US roads is only going up. A <a href="https://www.spglobal.com/mobility/en/research-analysis/average-age-vehicles-united-states-2024.html">recent report</a> found that cars and trucks just reached a new record average age of 12.6 years, up two months from 2023. That means the car software hitting the road today needs to work­—and maybe even improve—­beyond 2036. The average length of smartphone ownership is just ...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>New Attack Against Self-Driving Car AI</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/05/10/new-attack-against-self-driving-car-ai/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2024 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>This is another attack that convinces the AI to <a href="https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/10/baidu_apollo_hack/">ignore road signs</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Due to the way CMOS cameras operate, rapidly changing light from fast flashing diodes can be used to vary the color. For example, the shade of red on a stop sign could look different on each line depending on the time between the diode flash and the line capture.</p>
<p>The result is the camera capturing an image full of lines that don’t quite match each other. The information is cropped and sent to the classifier, usually based on deep neural networks, for interpretation. Because it’s full of lines that don’t match, the classifier doesn’t recognize the image as a traffic sign...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Long Article on GM Spying on Its Cars’ Drivers</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/04/26/long-article-on-gm-spying-on-its-cars-drivers/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2024 11:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kashmir Hill has a really good article on how GM tricked its drivers into letting it spy on them&#8212;and then sold that data to insurance companies.
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		<title>Cheating Automatic Toll Booths by Obscuring License Plates</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/03/20/cheating-automatic-toll-booths-by-obscuring-license-plates/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The <i>Wall Street Journal</i> is <a href="https://www.wsj.com/us-news/sneaky-drivers-dodging-toll-cameras-cost-authorities-millions-5941fe31?st=y6zwgzfhmswlb0b&#38;reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink">reporting</a> on a variety of techniques drivers are using to obscure their license plates so that automatic readers can’t identify them and charge tolls properly.</p>
<blockquote><p>Some drivers have power-washed paint off their plates or covered them with a range of household items such as leaf-shaped magnets, Bramwell-Stewart said. The Port Authority says officers in 2023 roughly doubled the number of summonses issued for obstructed, missing or fictitious license plates compared with the prior year.</p>
<p>Bramwell-Stewart said one driver from New Jersey repeatedly used what’s known in the streets as a flipper, which lets you remotely swap out a car’s real plate for a bogus one ahead of a toll area. In this instance, the bogus plate corresponded to an actual one registered to a woman who was mystified to receive the tolls. “Why do you keep billing me?” Bramwell-Stewart recalled her asking...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Automakers Are Sharing Driver Data with Insurers without Consent</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/03/14/automakers-are-sharing-driver-data-with-insurers-without-consent/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Kasmir Hill has the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driver-tracking-insurance.html?unlocked_article_code=1.b00.WNY6.1fEAGvGKLlWF&#38;smid=url-share&#38;utm_source=substack&#38;utm_medium=email">story</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Modern cars are internet-enabled, allowing access to services like navigation, roadside assistance and car apps that drivers can connect to their vehicles to locate them or unlock them remotely. In recent years, automakers, including G.M., Honda, Kia and Hyundai, have started offering optional features in their connected-car apps that rate people’s driving. Some drivers may not realize that, if they turn on these features, the car companies then give information about how they drive to data brokers like LexisNexis [who then sell it to insurance companies]...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Digital Car Keys Are Coming</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2023/11/28/digital-car-keys-are-coming/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2023 20:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Soon we will be able to unlock and start our cars from our phones. Let&#8217;s hope people are thinking about security.
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		<title>The Privacy Disaster of Modern Smart Cars</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Article based on a Mozilla report.
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		<title>Hacking Gas Pumps via Bluetooth</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2023/10/03/hacking-gas-pumps-via-bluetooth/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 11:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Turns out pumps at gas stations are controlled via Bluetooth, and that the connections are insecure. No details in the article, but it seems that it&#8217;s easy to take control of the pump and have it dispense gas without requiring payment.
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		<title>Cars Have Terrible Data Privacy</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2023/09/12/cars-have-terrible-data-privacy/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2023 11:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A new Mozilla Foundation report concludes that cars, all of them, have terrible data privacy.
All 25 car brands we researched earned our *Privacy Not Included warning label&#8212;making cars the official worst category of products for privacy that we h...]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>On Robots Killing People</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2023/09/11/on-robots-killing-people/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2023 11:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[artificial intelligence]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[regulation]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[robotics]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The robot revolution began long ago, and so did the killing. One day in 1979, a robot at a Ford Motor Company casting plant malfunctioned—human workers determined that it was not going fast enough. <a href="https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=7KMyAAAAIBAJ&#38;sjid=Bu8FAAAAIBAJ&#38;pg=3301,87702&#38;dq=flat-rock+williams+robot&#38;hl=en">And so twenty-five-year-old Robert Williams</a> was asked to climb into a storage rack to help move things along. The one-ton robot continued to work silently, smashing into Williams’s head and instantly killing him. This was <a href="https://www.wired.com/2010/01/0125robot-kills-worker/">reportedly</a> the first incident in which a robot killed a human; many more would follow.</p>
<p>At Kawasaki Heavy Industries in 1981, Kenji Urada died in similar ...</p>]]></description>
		
		
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