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		<title>Huawei and Chinese Surveillance</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/11/26/huawei-and-chinese-surveillance/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 12:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>This quote is from <a href="https://www.mcnallyjackson.com/book/9780593544631"><i>House of Huawei: The Secret History of China’s Most Powerful Company</i></a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Long before anyone had heard of Ren Zhengfei or Huawei, Wan Runnan had been China’s star entrepreneur in the 1980s, with his company, the Stone Group, touted as “China’s IBM.” Wan had believed that economic change could lead to political change. He had thrown his support behind the pro-democracy protesters in 1989. As a result, he had to flee to France, with an arrest warrant hanging over his head. He was never able to return home. Now, decades later and in failing health in Paris, Wan recalled something that had happened one day in the late 1980s, when he was still living in Beijing...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Scam USPS and E-Z Pass Texts and Websites</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/11/20/scam-usps-and-e-z-pass-texts-and-websites/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2025 12:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Google has filed a complaint in court that <a href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/google-vows-to-stop-scam-e-z-pass-and-usps-texts-plaguing-americans/">details the scam</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In a complaint filed Wednesday, the tech giant accused “a cybercriminal group in China” of selling “phishing for dummies” kits. The kits help unsavvy fraudsters easily “execute a large-scale phishing campaign,” tricking hordes of unsuspecting people into “disclosing sensitive information like passwords, credit card numbers, or banking information, often by impersonating well-known brands, government agencies, or even people the victim knows.”</p>
<p>These branded “Lighthouse” kits offer two versions of software, depending on whether bad actors want to launch SMS and e-commerce scams. “Members may subscribe to weekly, monthly, seasonal, annual, or permanent licenses,” Google alleged. Kits include “hundreds of templates for fake websites, domain set-up tools for those fake websites, and other features designed to dupe victims into believing they are entering sensitive information on a legitimate website.”...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Social Engineering People’s Credit Card Details</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/10/28/social-engineering-peoples-credit-card-details/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 11:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Good <i>Wall Street Journal</i> <a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/cybersecurity/url-scam-texts-china-gangs-68e96097?st=XcjCtr&#38;reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink&#38;utm_source=substack&#38;utm_medium=email">article</a> on criminal gangs that scam people out of their credit card information:</p>
<blockquote><p>Your highway toll payment is now past due, one text warns. You have U.S. Postal Service fees to pay, another threatens. You owe the New York City Department of Finance for unpaid traffic violations.</p>
<p>The texts are ploys to get unsuspecting victims to fork over their credit-card details. The gangs behind the scams take advantage of this information to buy iPhones, gift cards, clothing and cosmetics.</p>
<p>Criminal organizations operating out of China, which investigators blame for the toll and postage messages, have used them to make more than $1 billion over the last three years, according to the Department of Homeland Security...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Details About Chinese Surveillance and Propaganda Companies</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/09/22/details-about-chinese-surveillance-and-propaganda-companies/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2025 11:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Details from <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/made-in-china-how-chinas-surveillance-industry-actually-works/">leaked documents</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>While people often look at China’s Great Firewall as a single, all-powerful government system unique to China, the actual process of developing and maintaining it works the same way as surveillance technology in the West. Geedge collaborates with academic institutions on research and development, adapts its business strategy to fit different clients’ needs, and even repurposes leftover infrastructure from its competitors.</p>
<p>[…]</p>
<p>The parallels with the West are hard to miss. A number of American surveillance and propaganda firms also started as academic projects before they were spun out into startups and grew by chasing government contracts. The difference is that in China, these companies operate with far less transparency. Their work comes to light only when a trove of documents slips onto the internet...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>China Accuses Nvidia of Putting Backdoors into Their Chips</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/08/07/china-accuses-nvidia-of-putting-backdoors-into-their-chips/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 11:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The government of China has accused Nvidia of inserting a backdoor into their H20 chips:
China&#8217;s cyber regulator on Thursday said it had held a meeting with Nvidia over what it called &#8220;serious security issues&#8221; with the company&#8217;s...]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Another Supply Chain Vulnerability</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>ProPublica is <a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/microsoft-digital-escorts-pentagon-defense-department-china-hackers">reporting</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Microsoft is using engineers in China to help maintain the Defense Department’s computer systems—with minimal supervision by U.S. personnel—leaving some of the nation’s most sensitive data vulnerable to hacking from its leading cyber adversary, a ProPublica investigation has found.</p>
<p>The arrangement, which was critical to Microsoft winning the federal government’s cloud computing business a decade ago, relies on U.S. citizens with security clearances to oversee the work and serve as a barrier against espionage and sabotage...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>New Mobile Phone Forensics Tool</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2025 11:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese have a new tool called <a href="https://www.lookout.com/threat-intelligence/article/massistant-chinese-mobile-forensics">Massistant</a>.</p>
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<li>Massistant is the presumed successor to Chinese forensics tool, “MFSocket”, reported in 2019 and attributed to publicly traded cybersecurity company, Meiya Pico.
</li><li>The forensics tool works in tandem with a corresponding desktop software.
</li><li>Massistant gains access to device GPS location data, SMS messages, images, audio, contacts and phone services.
</li><li>Meiya Pico maintains partnerships with domestic and international law enforcement partners, both as a surveillance hardware and software provider, as well as through training programs for law enforcement personnel...</li></ul></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Chinese-Owned VPNs</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/05/27/chinese-owned-vpns/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2025 11:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>One one my biggest worries about VPNs is the amount of trust users need to place in them, and how opaque most of them are about who owns them and what sorts of data they retain.</p>
<p>A <a href="https://www.techtransparencyproject.org/articles/apple-offers-apps-with-ties-to-chinese-military">new study</a> found that many commercials VPNS are (often surreptitiously) owned by Chinese companies.</p>
<blockquote><p>It would be hard for U.S. users to avoid the Chinese VPNs. The ownership of many appeared deliberately opaque, with several concealing their structure behind layers of offshore shell companies. TTP was able to determine the Chinese ownership of the 20 VPN apps being offered to Apple’s U.S. users by piecing together corporate documents from around the world. None of those apps clearly disclosed their Chinese ownership...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Communications Backdoor in Chinese Power Inverters</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2025 13:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>This is a <a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ar-AA1EMfHP">weird story</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>U.S. energy officials are reassessing the risk posed by Chinese-made devices that play a critical role in renewable energy infrastructure after unexplained communication equipment was found inside some of them, two people familiar with the matter said.</p>
<p>[…]</p>
<p>Over the past nine months, undocumented communication devices, including cellular radios, have also been found in some batteries from multiple Chinese suppliers, one of them said.</p>
<p>Reuters was unable to determine how many solar power inverters and batteries they have looked at...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Chinese AI Submersible</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/05/07/chinese-ai-submersible/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 11:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A Chinese company has <a href="https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3308410/china-launches-blue-whale-worlds-first-high-speed-typhoon-proof-uncrewed-submersible">developed</a> an AI-piloted submersible that can reach speeds “similar to a destroyer or a US Navy torpedo,” dive “up to 60 metres underwater,” and “remain static for more than a month, like the stealth capabilities of a nuclear submarine.” In case you’re worried about the military applications of this, you can relax because the company says that the submersible is “designated for civilian use” and can “launch research rockets.”</p>
<p>“Research rockets.” Sure.</p>
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		<title>China Sort of Admits to Being Behind Volt Typhoon</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/04/14/china-sort-of-admits-to-being-behind-volt-typhoon/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 11:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p><i>The Wall Street Journal</i> has the <a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/in-secret-meeting-china-acknowledged-role-in-u-s-infrastructure-hacks-c5ab37cb?st=UfFBTh&#38;reflink=article_copyURL_share">story</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Chinese officials acknowledged in a secret December meeting that Beijing was behind a widespread series of alarming cyberattacks on U.S. infrastructure, according to people familiar with the matter, underscoring how hostilities between the two superpowers are continuing to escalate.</p>
<p>The Chinese delegation linked years of intrusions into computer networks at U.S. ports, water utilities, airports and other targets, to increasing U.S. policy support for Taiwan, the people, who declined to be named, said.</p></blockquote>
<p>The admission wasn’t explicit:...</p>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea Intelligence Sharing</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/03/12/china-russia-iran-and-north-korea-intelligence-sharing/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Former CISA Director Jen Easterly <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jen-easterly_could-the-next-five-eyes-be-the-four-activity-7295808854750081025-GcpE">writes</a> about a new international intelligence sharing co-op:</p>
<blockquote><p>Historically, China, Russia, Iran &#38; North Korea have cooperated to some extent on military and intelligence matters, but differences in language, culture, politics &#38; technological sophistication have hindered deeper collaboration, including in cyber. Shifting geopolitical dynamics, however, could drive these states toward a more formalized intell-sharing partnership. Such a “Four Eyes” alliance would be motivated by common adversaries and strategic interests, including an enhanced capacity to resist economic sanctions and support proxy conflicts...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Silk Typhoon Hackers Indicted</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Lots of interesting details in <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/us-charges-12-alleged-spies-in-chinas-freewheeling-hacker-for-hire-ecosystem/">the story</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The US Department of Justice on Wednesday <a href="https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-charges-12-chinese-contract-hackers-and-law-enforcement-officers-global">announced</a> the indictment of 12 Chinese individuals accused of more than a decade of hacker intrusions around the world, including eight staffers for the contractor i-Soon, two officials at China’s Ministry of Public Security who allegedly worked with them, and two other alleged hackers who are said to be part of the Chinese hacker group APT27, or Silk Typhoon, which prosecutors say was involved in the US Treasury breach late last year.</p>
<p>[…]</p>
<p>According to prosecutors, the group as a whole has targeted US state and federal agencies, foreign ministries of countries across Asia, Chinese dissidents, US-based media outlets that have criticized the Chinese government, and most recently the US Treasury, which was breached between September and December of last year. An internal Treasury report ...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>US Treasury Department Sanctions Chinese Company Over Cyberattacks</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2025/01/07/us-treasury-department-sanctions-chinese-company-over-cyberattacks/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2025 12:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the Washington Post:
The sanctions target Beijing Integrity Technology Group, which U.S. officials say employed workers responsible for the Flax Typhoon attacks which compromised devices including routers and internet-enabled cameras to infiltrate...]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Salt Typhoon’s Reach Continues to Grow</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/12/30/salt-typhoons-reach-continues-to-grow/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The US government has identified a ninth telecom that was successfully hacked by Salt Typhoon.
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		<title>IoT Devices in Password-Spraying Botnet</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/11/06/iot-devices-in-password-spraying-botnet/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2024 12:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft is <a href="https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/11/microsoft-warns-of-8000-strong-botnet-used-in-password-spraying-attacks/">warning</a> Azure cloud users that a Chinese controlled botnet is engaging in “highly evasive” password spraying. Not sure about the “highly evasive” part; the techniques seem basically what you get in a distributed password-guessing attack:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Any threat actor using the CovertNetwork-1658 infrastructure could conduct password spraying campaigns at a larger scale and greatly increase the likelihood of successful credential compromise and initial access to multiple organizations in a short amount of time,” Microsoft officials wrote. “This scale, combined with quick operational turnover of compromised credentials between CovertNetwork-1658 and Chinese threat actors, allows for the potential of account compromises across multiple sectors and geographic regions.”...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Sophos Versus the Chinese Hackers</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/11/04/sophos-versus-the-chinese-hackers/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2024 12:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really interesting story of Sophos&#8217;s five-year war against Chinese hackers.
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		<title>No, The Chinese Have Not Broken Modern Encryption Systems with a Quantum Computer</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/10/22/no-the-chinese-have-not-broken-modern-encryption-systems-with-a-quantum-computer/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[encryption]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[quantum computing]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[The headline is pretty scary: &#8220;China&#8217;s Quantum Computer Scientists Crack Military-Grade Encryption.&#8221;
No, it&#8217;s not true.
This debunking saved me the trouble of writing one. It all seems to have come from this news article, which ...]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>What’s new in Cloudflare One: Digital Experience (DEX) monitoring notifications and seamless access to Cloudflare Gateway with China Express</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/10/10/whats-new-in-cloudflare-one-digital-experience-dex-monitoring-notifications-and-seamless-access-to-cloudflare-gateway-with-china-express/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy Nir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2024 13:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[china]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Cloudflare Gateway]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Cloudflare Zero Trust]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[DEX]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[This roundup blog post shares the latest new features and capabilities at Cloudflare. Learn more about new Digital Experience (DEX) monitoring notifications and seamless access to Cloudflare Gateway with China Express.]]></description>
		
		
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		<title>Deebot Robot Vacuums Are Using Photos and Audio to Train Their AI</title>
		<link>https://noise.getoto.net/2024/10/10/deebot-robot-vacuums-are-using-photos-and-audio-to-train-their-ai/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce Schneier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2024 11:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[artificial intelligence]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[china]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[cybersecurity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[data privacy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Internet of Things]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Privacy]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[robotics]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>An Australian news agency is <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-05/robot-vacuum-deebot-ecovacs-photos-ai/104416632">reporting</a> that robot vacuum cleaners from the Chinese company Deebot are surreptitiously taking photos and recording audio, and sending that data back to the vendor to train their AIs.</p>
<blockquote><p>Ecovacs’s privacy policy—<a href="https://gl-us-wap.ecovacs.com/content/agreementNewest/PRIVACY/DEFAULT/DEFAULT">available elsewhere in the app</a>—allows for blanket collection of user data for research purposes, including:</p>
<ul>
<li>The 2D or 3D map of the user’s house generated by the device
</li><li>Voice recordings from the device’s microphone
</li><li>Photos or videos recorded by the device’s camera</li></ul>
<p>It also states that voice recordings, videos and photos that are deleted via the app may continue to be held and used by Ecovacs...</p></blockquote>]]></description>
		
		
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