Living in Berlin? You are a GNOMEr?

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If you live in Berlin and are a GNOMEr of some kind then please feel
invited top drop by tomorrow (Fri 29) at 4 pm at the Prater Biergarten
(Weather permitting outside, otherwise inside). We’ll have a little GNOME
get-together. For now, we know that at least the Openismus Berlin folks will
be there, as will I and presumably one special guest from Finland, and whoever
else wants to attend.

Hope to see you tomorrow!

All About Fragments

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In my on-going series Writing
Better Audio Applications
for Linux, here’s another
installment: a little explanation how fragments/periods and buffer
sizes should be chosen when doing audio playback with traditional
audio APIs such as ALSA and OSS. This originates from some emails
I exchanged with the Ekiga folks
. In the last weeks I kept copying
this explanation to various other folks. I guess it would make sense
to post this on my blog here too to reach a wider audience. So here it
is, mostly unedited:

Yes. You shouldn't misuse the fragments logic of sound devices. It's
like this:

   The latency is defined by the buffer size.
   The wakeup interval is defined by the fragment size.

The buffer fill level will oscillate between 'full buffer' and 'full
buffer minus 1x fragment size minus OS scheduling latency'. Setting
smaller fragment sizes will increase the CPU load and decrease battery
time since you force the CPU to wake up more often. OTOH it increases
drop out safety, since you fill up playback buffer earlier. Choosing
the fragment size is hence something which you should do balancing out
your needs between power consumption and drop-out safety. With modern
processors and a good OS scheduler like the Linux one setting the
fragment size to anything other than half the buffer size does not
make much sense.

Your [Ekiga's ptlib driver that is] ALSA output is configured
to set the the fragment size to the size of your codec audio
frames. And that's a bad idea. Because the codec frame size has not
been chosen based on power consumption or drop-out safety
reasoning. It has been chosen by the codec designers based on
different reasoning, such as latency.

You probably configured your backend this ways because the ALSA
library docs say that it is recommended to write to the sound card in
multiples of the fragment size. However deducing from this that you
hence should configure the fragment size to the codec frame size is

The best way to implement playback these days for ALSA is to write as
much as snd_pcm_avail() tells you to each time you wake up due to
POLLOUT on the sound card. If that is not a multiple of your codec
frame size then you need to buffer the the remainder of the decoded
data yourself in system memory.

The ALSA fragment size you should normally set as large as possible
given your latency constraints but that you have at least two
fragments in your buffer size.

I hope this explains a bit how frag_size/buffer_size should be
chosen. If you have questions, just ask.

(Oh, ALSA uses the term 'period' for what I call 'fragment'
above. It's synonymous)

GNOME now esound-free

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Andre Klapper just informed
me that GNOME is now officially esound-free: all modules have been ported over
to libcanberra
for event sounds or GStreamer/PulseAudio for everything else. It’s time to

It’s an end of an era. The oldest version of esound in GNOME CVS is 0.2.1,
commited on May 11th 1998. It has been shipped with every GNOME release since
1.0 back in 1999. (esound outside of GNOME dates even further back, probably
some time in the year 1997 or so). After almost 11 years in GNOME it’s all over now.
Oh, those were the good times.

If you maintain a module that is not part of GNOME that still uses
esound, hurry and update yours as well!

What YOU need to know about Practical Real-Time Programming

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Eduardo Lima just added a couple
of more videos from one of the
best conferences in existence
to the
channel at Humbly as I am I’d like to ask everyone who
is interested in real-time and/or audio/video/animation programming to have a peek at this particular one.

That’s all.

Device Reservation Spec

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The JACK folks and I have agreed on a little specification for device
that allows clean hand-over of audio device access from
PulseAudio to JACK and back. The specification is generic enough to allow
locking/hand-over of other device types as well, not just audio cards. So, in
case someone needs to implement a similar kind of locking/handover for any kind of resource here’s some
prior art you can base your work on. Given that HAL is supposed to go away
pretty soon this might be an option for a replacement for HAL’s current device
locking. The logic is as simple as it can get. Whoever owns a certain service name on
the D-Bus session bus owns the device access. For further details, read the spec.

There’s even a reference
available, which both JACK2 and PulseAudio have now


Having fun with bzr

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#nocomments y

So I wanted to hack proper channel mapping query support into libsndfile, something I have had
on my TODO list for years. The first step was to find the source code
repository for it
. That was easy. Alas the VCS used is bzr. There are some
very vocal folks on the Internet who claim that the bzr user interface is
stupendously easy to use in contrast to git which apparantly is the very
definition of complexity. And if it is stated on the Internet it must be true.
I think I mastered git quite well, so yeah, checking out the sources with bzr
can’t be that difficult for my limited brain capacity.

So let’s do what Erik suggests for checking out the sources:

$ bzr get

Calling this I get a nice percentage counter that starts at 0% and ends at, … uh, 0%. That gives me a real feeling of progress. It takes a while, and then I get an error:

bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "".

Now that’s a useful error message. They even include an all-caps word! I guess that error message is right — it’s not a branch, it is a repository. Or is it not?

So what do we do about this? Maybe get is not actually the right verb. Let’s try to play around a bit. Let’s use the verb I use to get sources with in git:

$ bzr clone

Hmm, this results in exactly same 0% to 0% progress counter, and the same useless error message.

Now I remember that bzr is actually more inspired by Subversion’s UI than by git’s, so let’s try it the SVN way.

$ bzr checkout

Hmm, and of course, I get exactly the same results again. A counter that counts from 0% to 0% and the same useless error message.

Ok, maybe that error is bzr’s standard reply? Let’s check this out:

$ bzr waldo
bzr: ERROR: unknown command "waldo"

Apparently not. bzr actually knows more than one error message.

Ok, I admit doing this by trial-and-error is a rather lame approach. RTFM! So let’s try this.

$ man bzr-get
No manual entry for bzr-get

Ouch. No man page? How awesome. Ah, wait, maybe they have only a single unreadable mega man page for everything. Let’s try this:

$ man bzr

Wow, this actually worked. Seems to list all commands. Now let’s look for the help on bzr get:

/bzr get
Pattern not found  (press RETURN)

Hmm, no documentation for their most important command? That’s weird! Ok, let’s try it again with our git vocabulary:

/bzr clone
Pattern not found  (press RETURN)

Ok, this not funny anymore. Apparently the verbs are listed in alphabetical order.
So let’s browse to the letter g as in get. However it doesn’t
exist. There’s bzr export, and then the next entry is bzr
(Oh, irony!) — but no get in-between.

Ok, enough of this shit. Maybe the message wants to tell us that the repo
actually doesn’t exist (even though it confusingly calls it a “branch”). Let’s
go back to the original page at Erik’s site and read things again. Aha, the
main archive archive can be found at (yes, the directory looks empty, but
it isn’t):“.

Hmm, indeed — that URL looks very empty when it is accessed. How weird though
that in bzr a repo is an empty directory!

And at this point I gave up and downloaded the tarball to make my patches
against. I have still not managed to check out the sources from the repo.
Somehow I get the feeling the actual repo really isn’t available anymore under that address.

So why am I blogging about this? Not so much to start another flamefest, to
nourish the fanboys, nor because it is so much fun to bash other people’s work or
simply to piss people off. It’s more for two reasons:

Firstly, simply to make
the point that folks can claim a thousand times that git’s UI sucks and bzr’s
UI is awesome. It’s simply not true. From what I experienced it is not the
tiniest bit better. The error messages useless, the documentation incomplete,
the interfaces surprising and exactly as redundant as git’s. The only
effective difference I noticed is that it takes a bit longer to show those
error messages with bzr — the Python tax. To summarize this more positively: git excels as much as bzr does. Both’ documentation, their error messages and their user interface are the best in their class. And they have all the best chances for future improvement.

And the second reason of course is that I’d still like to know what the correct way to get the sources is. But for that I should probably ask Erik himself.

Generating Copyright Headers from git History

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Here’s a little a little tool I
that automatically generates copyright headers for source files in a
git repository based on the git history.

Run it like this:

~/projects/pulseaudio$ src/pulsecore/sink.c src/pulsecore/core-util.c

And it will give you this:

File: src/pulsecore/sink.c
	Copyright 2004, 2006-2009 Lennart Poettering
	Copyright 2006-2007 Pierre Ossman
	Copyright 2008-2009 Marc-Andre Lureau
File: src/pulsecore/core-util.c
	Copyright 2004, 2006-2009 Lennart Poettering
	Copyright 2006-2007 Pierre Ossman
	Copyright 2008 Stelian Ionescu
	Copyright 2009 Jared D. McNeill
	Copyright 2009 Marc-Andre Lureau

This little script could use love from a friendly soul to make it crawl entire source trees and patch in appropriate copyright headers. Anyone up for it?

Tagging Audio Streams

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So you are hacking an audio application and the audio data you are
generating might eventually end up in PulseAudio before it is played. If that’s the case then please make sure
to read this!

Here’s the quick summary for Gtk+ developers:

PulseAudio can enforce all kinds of policy on sounds. For example, starting
in 0.9.15, we will automatically pause your media player while a phone call is
going on. To implement this we however need to know what the stream you
are sending to PulseAudio should be categorized as: is it music? Is it a
movie? Is it game sounds? Is it a phone call stream?

Also, PulseAudio would like to show a nice icon and an application name next
to each stream in the volume control. That requires it to be able to deduce
this data from the stream.

And here’s where you come into the game: please add three lines like the
following next to the beginning of your main() function to your Gtk+

g_set_application_name(_("Totem Movie Player"));
g_setenv("PULSE_PROP_media.role", "video", TRUE);

If you do this then the PulseAudio client libraries will be able to figure out the rest for you.

There is more meta information (aka “properties”) you can set for your application or for your streams that is useful to PulseAudio. In case you want to know more about them or you are looking for equivalent code to the above example for non-Gtk+ applications, make sure to read the mentioned page.

Thank you!

Oh, and even if your app doesn’t do audio, calling g_set_application_name() and gtk_window_set_default_icon_name() is always a good idea!

How to Version D-Bus Interfaces Properly and Why Using / as Service Entry Point Sucks

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So you are designing a D-Bus interface and want to make it future-proof. Of
course, you thought about versioning your stuff. But you wonder how to do that
best. Here are a few things I learned about versioning D-Bus APIs which might
be of general interest:

Version your interfaces! This one is pretty obvious. No explanation
needed. Simply include the interface version in the interface name as suffix.
i.e. the initial release should use org.foobar.AwesomeStuff1, and if
you do changes you should introduce org.foobar.AwesomeStuff2, and so
on, possibly dropping the old interface.

When should you bump the interface version? Generally, I’d recommend only
bumping when doing incompatible changes, such as function call signature
changes. This of course requires clients to handle the
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod error properly for each function
you add to an existing interface. That said, in a few cases it might make sense
to bump the interface version even without breaking compatibility of the calls.
(e.g. in case you add something to an interface that is not directly visible in
the introspection data)

Version your services! This one is almost as obvious. When you
completely rework your D-Bus API introducing a new service name might be a
good idea. Best way to do this is by simply bumping the service name. Hence,
call your service org.foobar.AwesomeService1 right from the beginning
and then bump the version if you reinvent the wheel. And don’t forget that you
can acquire more than one well-known service name on the bus, so even if you
rework everything you can keep compatibilty. (Example: BlueZ 3 to BlueZ 4 switch)

Version your ‘entry point’ object paths! This one is far from
obvious. The reasons why object paths should be versioned are purely technical,
not philosophical: for signals sent from a service D-Bus overwrites the
originating service name by the unique name (e.g. :1.42) even if you
fill in a well-known name (e.g. org.foobar.AwesomeService1). Now,
let’s say your application registers two well-known service names, let’s say
two versions of the same service, versioned like mentioned above. And you have
two objects — one on each of the two service names — that implement a generic
interface and share the same object path: for the client there will be no way
to figure out to which service name the signals sent from this object path
belong. And that’s why you should make sure to use versioned and hence
different paths for both objects. i.e. start with
/org/foobar/AwesomeStuff1 and then bump to
/org/foobar/AwesomeStuff2 and so on. (Also see David’s comments about this.)

When should you bump the object path version? Probably only when you
bump the service name it belongs to. Important is to version the ‘entry point’
object path. Objects below that don’t need explicit versioning.

In summary: For good D-Bus API design you should version all three: D-Bus interfaces, service names and ‘entry point’ object paths.

And don’t forget: nobody gets API design right the first time. So even if
you think your D-Bus API is perfect: version things right from the beginning
because later on it might turn out you were not quite as bright as you thought
you were.

A corollary from the reasoning behind versioning object paths as described
above is that using / as entry point object path for your service is a
bad idea. It makes it very hard to implement more than one service or service
version on a single D-Bus connection. Again: Don’t use / as entry
point object path. Use something like /org/foobar/AwesomeStuff!

Writing Volume Control UIs is Hard

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Writing modern volume control UIs (i.e. ‘mixer tools’) is much harder to get
right than it might appear at first. Because that is the way it is I’ve put
together a rough
guide what to keep in mind when writing them for PulseAudio
. Originally
just intended to be a bit of help for the gnome-volume-control guys I believe
this could be an interesting read for other people as well.

It touches a lot of topics: volumes in general, how to present them,
what to present, base volumes, flat volumes, what to do about multichannel
volumes, controlling clients, controlling cards, handling default devices,
saving/restoring volumes/devices, sound event sliders, how to monitor PCM and

So make sure to give it at least a quick peek! If you plan to write a volume
control for ncurses or KDE (hint, hint!) even more so, it’s a must read.

Maybe this might also help illustrating why I think that abstracting volume
control interfaces inside of abstraction layers such as Phonon or GStreamer is
doomed to fail, and just not even worth the try.

And now, without further ado I give you ‘Writing Volume Control UIs’.

Oh Nine Fifteen

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Last week I’ve released a
test version
for the upcoming 0.9.15 release of PulseAudio. It’s going to be a major one,
so here’s a little overview what’s new from the user’s perspective.

Flat Volumes

Based on code originally contributed by Marc-André Lureau we now
support Flat Volumes. The idea behind flat volumes has been
inspired by how Windows Vista handles volume control: instead of
maintaining one volume control per application stream plus one device
volume we instead fix the device volume automatically to the “loudest”
application stream volume. Sounds confusing? Actually it’s right the contrary, it feels pretty natural and
easy to use and brings us a big step forward to reduce a bit the
number of volume sliders in the entire audio pipeline from the application to what you hear.

The flat volumes logic only applies to devices where we know the
actual multiplication factor of the hardware volume slider. That’s
most devices supported by the ALSA kernel drivers except for a few
older devices and some cheap USB hardware that exports invalid
dB information.

On-the-fly Reconfiguration of Devices (aka “S/PDIF Support”)

PulseAudio will now automatically probe all possible combinations
of configurations how to use your sound card for playback and
capturing and then allow on-the-fly switching of the
configuration. What does that mean? Basically you may now switch
beetween “Analog Stereo”, “Digital S/PDIF Stereo”, “Analog Surround
5.1” (… and so on) on-the-fly without having to reconfigure PA on
the configuration file level or even having to stop your streams. This
fixes a couple of issues PA had previously, including proper SPDIF
support, and per-device configuration of the channel map of

Unfortunately there is no UI for this yet, and hence you need to
use pactl/pacmd on the command line to switch between the
profiles. Typing list-cards in pacmd will tell you
which profiles your card supports.

In a later PA version this functionality will be extended to also
allow input connector switching (i.e. microphone vs. line-in) and
output connector switching (i.e. internal speakers vs. line-out)

Native support for 24bit samples

PA now supports 24bit packed samples as well as 24bit stored in
the LSBs of 32bit integers natively. Previously these formats were
always converted into 32bit MSB samples.

Airport Express Support

Colin Guthrie contributed native Airport Express support. This will
make the RAOP
audio output of ApEx routers appear like local sound devices
(unfortunately sound devices with a very long latency), i.e. any
application connecting to PulseAudio can output audio to ApEx devices
in a similar way to how iTunes can do it on MacOSX.

Before you ask: it is unlikely that we will ever make PulseAudio be
able to act as an ApEx compatible device that takes connections from
iTunes (i.e. becoming a RAOP server instead of just an RAOP client).
Apple has an unfriendly attitude of dongling their devices to their
applications: normally iTunes has to cryptographically authenticate
itself to the device and the device to iTunes. iTunes’ key has been
recovered by the infamous Jon Lech
, but the device key is still unknown. Without that key it
is not realistically possible to disguise PA as an ApEx.

Other stuff

There have been some extensive changes to natively support
Bluetooth audio devices well by directly accessing BlueZ. This code
was originally contributed by the GSoC student João Paulo Rechi
Vita. Initially, 0.9.15 was intended to become the version were BT audio
just works. Unfortunately the kernel is not really up to that yet, and
I am not sure everything will be in place so that 0.9.15 will ship
with well working BT support.

There have been a lot of internal changes and API additions. Most of
these however are not visible to the user.


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replacing integral parts of a system is always a bit of a dilemma. If we
replace it only after all the other software/drivers that interface with it is known
to work well with it then nobody will bother doing all that compatbility work
since they can say “Nobody uses it yet, so why should I bother?” — and hence
the change can never take place.

If we replace it before everything works perfectly well with it, then folks
will complain: “Oh my god, it doesn’t work with my software/drivers, you suck!” — like you just did (though in more polite words).

Hence regardless which way we do it we will do it the wrong way. Biting the
bullet and doing the change is however still the better, the only path to
improvement. With the limited amount of manpower we have pushing things out
knowing that there is some software/drivers that don’t work well with it is our only
option — especially if the software in question is unfixable by us since it is
closed source.

Hence, if we’d do as you wish and not make the distributions adopt
PulseAudio right now we can forget about fixing audio on Linux entirely and it
will stagnate forever.

As mentioned by J5 this was the same story with D-Bus, HAL, with udev, and other stuff.

And again, folks may claim that PulseAudio is very buggy. While it certainly
has bugs, like every software has, most of the issues reported are not things
we can or should fix/work-around in PulseAudio, but that are in other layers of
the system. In ALSA, in the drivers, in the client applications. However only
PA makes them become visible since it depends on a lot more functionality to
work properly than any other program before. And quite frankly we use a lot of stuff exactly nobody has used
before and that of course was broken due that (in ALSA as one example).

Having said all this. Just pointing to other folks to blame doesn’t really
solve the problem. I did a lot of testing on different sound chips, making
sure PulseAudio works fine on them. Of course it’s a limited testing set (six
cards right now to be exact, a seventh model currently being sent to me by my
employer, Red Hat.). The list of cards that are currently known to be
problematic are listed
in our Wiki

I am not saying that the points you make are rubbish. However, please see the big picture before getting vocal about it.

India, Again

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Right after my trip to
Brazil in November
I flew to Bangalore for 2008. It was one amazing conference! After
the bold
they had announced I feared they might be a bit too … bold. But
they were not. worked out very well, it was a great success, and it
was good to see a lot of familiar faces again. (Which reminds me: Hey, the four of you from the
, could you please drop me a line? I forgot to put down your
email addresses.)

After I flew up to Rajasthan for a much too short trip through this
marvelous state:

















That’s Pushkar, Jaipur, Fatehpur Sikri and the Taj Mahal (the real one, not the Hotel they bombed).


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In November I spent three weeks in Brazil, the country where I grew up two decades ago. Surprisingly little had changed since then. Except maybe that this time I had an DSLR:







That’s Rio de Janeiro and the old colonial towns of Ouro Preto, Mariana, São João del Rey, Tiradentes, Congonhas do Campo, Paraty in Minas Gerais and Rio State.



Once again Ouro Preto, and Copacabana Beach at night.

Automatic Backtrace Generation

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Ubuntu has Apport. Fedora has nothing. That sucks big time.

Here’s the result of a few minutes of hacking up something similar to Apport based on the awesome (and much underused) Frysk debugging tool kit. It doesn’t post any backtraces on any Internet servers and has no fancy UI — but it automatically dumps a stacktrace of every crashing process on the system to syslog and stores all kinds of data in /tmp/core.*/ for later inspection.

set -e
export PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
umask 077
mkdir "$DIR"
cat > "$DIR/core"
exec &> "$DIR/dump.log"
set +e
echo "$1" > "$DIR/pid"
echo "$2" > "$DIR/timestamp"
echo "$3" > "$DIR/uid"
echo "$4" > "$DIR/gid"
echo "$5" > "$DIR/signal"
echo "$6" > "$DIR/hostname"
set -x
fauxv "$DIR/core" > "$DIR/auxv"
fexe "$DIR/core" > "$DIR/exe"
fmaps "$DIR/core" > "$DIR/maps"
PKGS=`/usr/bin/fdebuginfo "$DIR/core" | grep "\-\-\-" | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | sort | uniq | grep '^/'| xargs rpm -qf | sort | uniq`
[ "x$PKGS" != x ] && debuginfo-install -y $PKGS
fstack -rich "$DIR/core" > "$DIR/fstack"
set +x
	echo "Application `cat "$DIR/exe"` (pid=$1,uid=$3,gid=$4) crashed with signal $5."
	echo "Stack trace follows:"
	cat "$DIR/fstack"
	echo "Auxiliary vector:"
	cat "$DIR/auxv"
	echo "Maps:"
	cat "$DIR/maps"
	echo "For details check $DIR"
) | logger -p -t "frysk-core-dump-$1"

Copy that into a file $SOMEWHERE/frysk-core-dump. Then do a chmod +x $SOMEWHERE/frysk-core-dump and a chown root:root $SOMEWHERE/frysk-core-dump. Now, tell the kernel that core dumps should be handed to this script:

# echo "|$SOMEWHERE/frysk-core-dump %p %t %u %g %s %h" > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern

Finally, increase RLIMIT_CORE to actually enable core dumps. ulimit -c
is a good idea. This will enable them only for your shell and
everything it spawns. In /etc/security/limits.conf you can enable
them for all users. I haven’t found out yet how to enable them globally
in Fedora though, i.e. for every single process that is started after boot including system daemons.

You can test this with running sleep 4711 and then dumping core with C-\. The stacktrace should appear right-away in /var/log/messages.

This script will automatically try to install the debugging symbols for the crashing application via yum. In some cases it hence might take a while until the backtrace appears in syslog.

Don’t forget to install Frysk before trying this script!

You can’t believe how useful this script is. Something crashed and the backtrace is already waiting for you! It’s a bugfixer’s wet dream.

I am a bit surprised though that noone else came up with this before me. Or maybe I am just too dumb to use Google properly?

People of the Free World [1]!

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GNOME 2.24 supports XDG
sound themes
. Unfortunately however right now there is only a single sound
theme in existence: the sound-theme-freedesktop
— which is pretty basic.

Help us change this! There are many web sites like which provide a large selection
of graphical themes for Gtk+, Metacity, icon sets and so on. We want to see a similarly large selection of sound themes available! And we’d like you to contribute to this!

How do you prepare sound themes? Read the XDG Sound Theming
and the XDG Sound
specifications. Start with basing your work on the aforementioned sound-theme-freedesktop.
And then just go ahead!

Please note that only subset of the sounds listed in the Sound Naming
Specification is currently hooked up properly — i.e. generated when “input
feedback” is enabled or triggered by applications. Nonetheless it makes sense
to include them in your theme, because eventually they will be hooked up.

When you put a theme together, make sure that you only select sounds that
have a sensible Free Software license — or if you have produced them yourself
you pick a good license yourself. GPLv2+, LGPLv2+, CC-BY-SA 3.0 and CC-BY 3.0
are good choices.

Not everyone is as lucky as Richard Hughes and has a mom who is
practically an endless source of special effect sounds. If your mom sucks then
don’t despair! The OLPC team has compiled a huge set of Free sounds
that is waiting to be made an XDG sound theme. I am eagerly looking forward to your sound
themes that make use of “The Berklee Sampling
Archive – Volume 13 – synthesizer – fx (126 samples) spaceships, lasers,
explosions, machineguns, glisses”
to start a war in space each time you
click a button on your screen![1]


[1] Free as in free desktops that is.

[2] OK, to be honest I am not actually that eagerly looking forward to that. Spacewar-at-your-fingertips is pretty lame in comparison to a theme called “Richard’s Mom”[3].

[3] You have no idea what all those Hughsie’s-Mom-jokes are about? Then listen to the sound files that are shipped with gnome-power-manager!

Responses to my Audio API Guide

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My Audio API guide got quite a few responses.

The Good

likes it.
And so
does David.
Which is great because both are key people in the Linux
multimedia community.

It made it to LWN. I sincerely
and humbly hope this is not going to stay the only news site picking this up.

The safe ALSA part of the recommendations will most likely be added to the ALSA documentation soon. The GNOME-relevent part I will be adding to the GNOME platform overview.

The Bad

basically likes it
, although he appears disappointed that KDE’s and Qt’s
Phonon wasn’t mentioned more positively. Aaron is very fair in his criticism.
Nonetheless I don’t think it is valid. My guide is not a list of alternatives.
It’s a list of recommendations. My recommendations. I do believe that my
recommendations very much match the mainstream of the opinions of the key
people in Linux multimedia and desktop audio. Of course I don’t nearly know
everyone of the key hackers in Linux multimedia. But I do know most of those
who are actively interested in collaboration, whose projects have a lot
mindshare and who attend the conferences that matter for Linux desktop audio.

Also see Christian’s comments on Aaron’s post.

The Ugly

It wasn’t my intention to start another GNOME-vs.-KDE flamefest.
Unfortunately a lot of people took this as great opportunity to troll at the
various blog comment forums. I guess it is inevitable that some of those whose
favourite software is not listed on a recommendation guide like this start to
clamour about that. It’s a pity not everyone who thinks I am treating KDE
unfairly criticises that as fairly and reasonable as Aaron. Anyway, I humbly take this as a sign that
people do consider this guide to be relevant and much needed. 😉

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